Message du Karmapa Thayé Dorjé

à propos de Lama Teunsang

(see English below)

Sa Sainteté le 17ème Karmapa Trinlay Thayé Dorjé a souhaité présenter publiquement son fils, nommé Touktsé (litt. « le fils du cœur »), aux amis et disciples en France. Cette cérémonie a eu lieu le 8 octobre au grand temple de Kundreul Ling, au Bost (Auvergne), et quelques centaines de personnes ont pu y participer. Ayant été organisée dans un délai très court, nous n’avons pas eu le temps d’annoncer cet évènement à tous.

A cette occasion, durant une très brève audience que nous avons eue pour lui présenter les offrandes de Montchardon ainsi que celles de Lama Teunsang, le Karmapa a rappelé le message qu’il nous avait fait transmettre le 13 août dernier, le jour où Lama Teunsang était en réanimation avec un pronostic vital engagé, suite à une complication hémorragique. Nous avions alors contacté le Karmapa pour lui demander si nous pouvions faire quelque chose de plus pour aider Lama, alors que les pratiques de Tara Verte allaient commencer à Montchardon et ailleurs. La réponse du Karmapa était édifiante. Le moment était si critique que nous avions renoncé à diffuser ce message, qui aurait pu être interprété de façon dramatique, pour ne pas accentuer l’inquiétude de tous.

Maintenant que tout danger est écarté, le message du Karmapa prend une dimension tout à fait exceptionnelle et Sa Sainteté a insisté pour qu’il soit diffusé à tous, expliquant lui-même que «chaque mot utilisé, je l’ai pensé et réfléchi, et je souhaite qu’il soit traduit correctement et largement diffusé afin d’être connu de tous».

Voici donc le message tel qu’il nous été transmis le 13 août. Le message est traduit de l’anglais (la traduction a été approuvée par l’administration de Karmapa et vous pouvez consulter la version anglaise originale ci-dessous dans le texte destiné aux anglophones).

« Je crains qu’il n’y ait pas grand-chose à faire. Aujourd’hui n’est pas une journée très favorable astrologiquement. S’il survit ce soir, cela pourra être favorable. (NdT : ce passage concerne la situation du 13 août)

Les amis et étudiants de Lama devraient plutôt se focaliser sur le courage qu’il a exprimé pour notre lignée.

Il ira bien, qu’il soit ou non capable de combattre cela.

Mais c’est le courage inébranlable et centré sur un unique objectif de ses amis et de ses étudiants qui lui fera honneur.

Ne laissez pas le drame ruiner son héritage.

La vie et la mort font partie de la vie et il ne le sait que trop bien.

Il n’a pas peur.

Mais l’honorer comblerait ses souhaits.

Autrement, il serait très dommage que vous ne puissiez pas garder la flamme du courage.


Avec mes deux yeux

Il est un MILAREPA de notre temps

Aucun aucun certificat ou diplôme n’est nécessaire pour le reconnaître. »

Message de Sa Sainteté le 17ème Karmapa Trinlay Thayé Dorjé, au sujet de Lama Teunsang, le 13 août 2019

Message from Karmapa Thayé Dorje

about Lama Teunsang

His Holiness the 17th Karmapa Trinlay Thaye Dorje wished to publicly present his son, named Touktse (litt. “the son of the heart”), to friends and disciples in France. This ceremony took place on October 8that the great temple of Kundröl Ling, in Bost (Auvergne), and a few hundred people were able to participate. Having been organized in a very short time, we did not have time to announce this event to everyone.

On this occasion, during a very brief audience that we had with the Karmapa to present offerings from Montchardon and from Lama Teunsang, the Karmapa recalled the message he had sent to us on August 13th, the day Lama Teunsang was in resuscitation with his vital prognosis engaged, following a hemorrhagic complication. At the time, we had contacted the Karmapa to ask him if we could do anything more to help Lama Teunsang, while Green Tara practices were about to start in Montchardon and elsewhere. The Karmapa’s response was edifying. The moment was so critical that we decided not to share this message, which could have been interpreted in a dramatic way, in order not to increase everyone’s concern.

Now that all danger has subsided, the message of the Karmapa takes on an exceptional dimension and His Holiness insisted that it be sent to all, explaining himself that “every word that I used, I have thought and reflected on it, and I wish it to be translated correctly and widely spread so that it is known to all”.

So here is the message as it was sent to us on the 13th of August.

«There isn’t much to do I’m afraid. Today is astrologically not very favorable. If he survives this evening it may be favorable. (Editor’s note: this passage concerns the situation on August 13th)

The friends and students of Lama should instead focus on the courage he expressed for our lineage.

He will be fine whether he is able to fight this or not.

But it’s his friends’ and students’ undivided single-focused courage that will honor him.

Do not let drama ruin his legacy.

Life and death is part of life and he knows it only too well.

He is not afraid.

But honoring him would fulfill his wishes.

Otherwise it would be a great pity if you can’t keep the flame of courage.

I’ll be watching

With both my eyes

He is a MILAREPA of our time

No degree nor diploma are needed to recognize him.»

Message from His Holiness the 17thKarmapa Trinlay Thaye Dorje, regarding Lama Teunsang, on August 13th, 2019.

Congregation de Karma Migyur Ling – 8900 route de Montchardon 38160 Izeron France

Vigilance COVID at Montchardon

The programme now takes place under special circumstances, since the Centre may resume its activities provided that the health rules are strictly observed.

The conditions of participation imply strict compliance with the barrier measures, whether for practices or courses.

Here is how we will organize ourselves.
For places of worship such as Montchardon, the rules set by the State are as follows:

  • - upon arrival at the Centre, the trainee must not be ill or show symptoms of the virus.
  •  obligation to maintain a distance of 1m around oneself, in the temple, in the refectory and when moving around the Centre,
  • - mandatory wearing of a protective mask in :
    •   - the temple: permanently during the teachings and daily collective practices.
    •   - the refectory: from the entrance to the moment of sitting down and if you get up to get a drink or to go out.
    •   - all other situations: as soon as it is difficult to maintain distance from others,
  • - hand washing with hydro-alcoholic gel at the entrance and exit of the temple and refectory, every time you enter the self-service area and on all occasions when you have to touch a collective object.
  • - An identifiable member of the administration will be responsible for the entry and exit phases of the prayer area to ensure that the rules are respected.

If you are unable or unwilling to follow these guidelines, we ask that you do not come to the Centre while these rules are in effect. The same applies, of course, if you are ill or have symptoms of the virus.

About Lama Teunsang

It is essential to protect Lama Teunsang whose immunity is compromised, making him extremely vulnerable to infection, and the people at the centre are in daily contact with him for meals and care. This also means that it is not appropriate to return to Lama Teunsang's home to greet him. For the compelling reasons mentioned above, he currently only receives those who care for his health.

No offering of kata to Lama Teunsang
It is asked to stay away from him, at least 1m and not to offer him a kata.
This use, so much appreciated by all of us, is currently suspended during the Covid period, to preserve its still fragile health.

Individual interview with Lama Teunsang
We asked Lama Teunsang about personal interviews. He does not wish to resume them for the time being. We will inform you of their resumption when he tells us so.
However, it is possible to request an interview with one of the Lamas of Montchardon. See with the translator.

In brief

Access to the temple will be limited to 80 people to respect sanitary distances. For accommodation, the rooms with several people will become individual accommodation, except for couples or families. The number of dormitory places will be reduced to space between beds. We will thus be able to accommodate about 80 people. The campsite will be open, the installation of the tents will have to follow the same instructions. We will have disinfecting liquids in all the places where it is necessary.

We would like to remind you:

  • - on the one hand, failure to respect the rules could lead to the closure of the Centre and legal proceedings.
  • - on the other hand, we have a moral obligation to protect ourselves and others from a potentially dangerous disease, especially since we live in collective premises.

As Buddhist practitioners, the constraints of masks, social distances and frequent hand washing can be integrated into our practice, as a constant training for vigilance and support of attention in our daily actions. It is also a great opportunity to practice the awakening mind, the altruistic attitude: "I commit myself to make this effort, thinking more about the well-being and health of others than about my own inconvenience". These are the skillful means of Dharma called " integrating unpleasantness into the path ".